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Permalink Reply by Adrian Ashton on January 10, 2012 at 8:27 thanks for taking the time to pull this together and share it Don - all too often this type of relection and sharing of stories of the (social) history of organisations is lost as people move on or simply forget... so as a relatively new fellow, great to be able to better understand some of the story of how the RSA is as it is today.
Adrian
Permalink Reply by Jemima Gibbons on January 10, 2012 at 10:44 Agree with Adrian - absolutely!
Thank you Don for posting these lessons from the setting up of The Virtual Coffee House - which I believe was the first ever RSA network to use the Ning platform (and the inspiration for all those that followed)!
Some of us were arguing at the last Fellowship Council that there should be an alternative route to power/ influence for Fellows who don't like committees, or don't "click" with their regional/national reps for whatever reason: just to open up the options, and ensure a *truly* diverse network.
VCH is a great example of disenfranchised Fellows seizing the initiative and making things happen.
I really hope others read your story - it would be great to have more comments and feedback.
Jemima
Permalink Reply by Roxanne Persaud on February 8, 2012 at 11:11 Thanks for this Don. This kind of critical reflection is a vital as the tools and technology we use to pursue 21st century enlightenment. Short-term trials and the longer-term development of a new Fellowship Platform, whatever that might look like, must learn from your experience. And the only real way to start that is taking seriously the issues you raise.
I trust you will keep the RSAde group (and everyone else) on our toes!
Permalink Reply by John Oakley on February 8, 2012 at 20:34 Don, that document is just what I was looking for! Just a few (almost) insurmountable opportunities but I'm beginning to get a feel of how we can approach a solution that satisfies both "church and state". I'm beginning to see the real requirements.
All we have to work out is the best way and place to discuss them so we can move to a set of solutions but that are not going to cause alarm and despondency with one group or other.
Looking through the various sources of information I can see a theme of "us and them". Any solution that is not simply "us" will not fly. And by "us" I mean the real "us", "JAS and the Fellows".
Can someone provide me with the top 10 requirements of digital engagement? If we can get agreement on that then perhaps we can move forward with less fragmentation.
A few questions might help.
1) What problem is Ning solving?
2) What problem is Twitter solving?
3) What problem is Facebook solving?
4) What problem is Linkedin solving?
5) What problems are still unsolved?
Hi John
Just a few comments to get the ball rolling:
1) What problem is Ning solving? It created a space, independent of Committees and JAS, where Fellows could find out what was happening, request support, and express their views. It was intended that there should be only one Ning, but fragmentation occurred, which was not helpful. JAS covered over their failure to establish an official platform by hitching a ride on the Ning, setting up their own, and hoping all other Nings would subsume into it. JAS also won some approbation by paying for the Nings when Ning commenced charging. Ning has deficiencies, but it's really the best we currently have.
2) What problem is Twitter solving? Some Fellows find twitter useful. I don't, but we need to keep an eye on it as we all know that Twitter can be a powerful viral medium for the naysayers.
3) What problem is Facebook solving? It forms a pseudo platform for Fellows who use it, and maybe use no other platform such as the Nings.
4) What problem is Linkedin solving? If forms a useful platform for those Fellows who are business orientated and already use this platform. I find myself pulled into it repeatedly. But it is cut off from the mainstream of communication amongst Fellows.
5) What problems are still unsolved? Bringing together all these various platforms (some might object to the term "platform") into one solid platform that delivers what Fellows and the RSA believe is needed. Apart from sucking in the best features of the above 1, 2, 3, 4, I believe we need a video conferencing set up with whiteboard, wp etc facilities so that like-minded Fellows across the country, maybe across the world, can unite around projects in their specialist areas of expertise. A front page that enables Fellows to find easy access to all the various platforms, blogs, twittering, events, requests for support - eg netvibes could and should become a RSA standard for all Fellows who use the Internet - and those who don't are becoming distanced by the day - and stay until the new platform comes into being and is seen as providing all these features and facilities..
Don't hesitate to add or contradict this view. RSAde representatives and those more formally involved do need to know.
Permalink Reply by John Oakley on February 9, 2012 at 11:49 Thank Don. The unsolved problems are relatively simple to solve technically with a few caveats. For example, Ning is really a walled garden, and some pretty unnatural acts have to be performed to add functionality to that base... although it is possible. The underlying problem is that Ning's add-ons are limited and under control of Ning in terms of availability and capability i.e. if it ain't there you won't get it any time soon. Ning is a social networking facility, not a social collaboration facility and the missing functions, the problems to be solved, seem to be primarily in the collaboration domain.
There are a number of alternatives of which the main contenders I believe are Groupsite http://www.groupsite.com/ and Wordpress http://wordpress.org/ , both of which provide more function than Ning "out of the box" and both of which provide escape from the walled garden, inasmuch as you can seamlessly link to other sites i.e. a whiteboard or conferencing system without leaving the main site.
Groupsite, like Ning, is a hosted-only site, with some customization possible but not too pretty. Wordpress, the engine driving RSA Blogs and Matthews blog also has a limited walled garden hosted version but to provide the functionality you suggest would need its own hosting. However, as many, if not most, of the top 500 websites are running under Wordpress its flexibility is amazing. Wordpress also comes in a so-called multi-user version which means there could be a master site with subsites, that could vary from being totally independent ( not recommended!) to inheriting much of the parent site. For example a whiteboard could be added to the parent site and it could then appear to be part of all regional sites, whereas the Welsh site could have its own Welsh language pages without frightening the rest of us!.
Any change from the current Ning environment would be disruptive I admit, and if this is a show-stopper then a possible solution would be to "wrap" the Nings inside either of the two suggested solutions. Its a pretty ugly solution architecturally but could be made to look relatively seamless with some ingenuity.
One other thing I am concerned about is that the existing networking tools are pretty open... I've found a number of meeting minutes simply by googling. Some things are best discussed in a more quiet corner until they are ready for general release. This conversation is one of them. If we had a secure platform that was limited to RSA and Fellows we should encourage everyone to limit Twitter and Facebook usage to simple links to the real material... but maybe that is a pipe dream when the FBI and the Met conference call on open lines.
However nothing can be done without resources, people and/or money. Not a lot of either... but then do remember I'm ex-IBM so the GNP of Belgium seems like petty cash. Is this something that might be eligible for Catalyst? I've got both the time and the skill (without funding) to do much of the prototyping but not to roll this out into any sort of pilot.
And finally, what is planned in the "new platform"? If we knew what products and tools they are planning to build it around can we help by prototyping and piloting using their technologies. I'm sure the JAS staff are working flat out on all aspects of this. The last thing they need is a bunch of rebels turning up and calling their baby ugly. I'd much sooner help their baby learn to walk and talk.
Some of us (including Don, John and Roxanne) have been discussing these issues on Linkedin ... and I think this is a better home. Thanks Don. I've posted a comment there suggesting people move across.
I think it would be a big help if Don, John ... maybe Jemima and Roxanne? ... could work out some terms of reference for the Linkedin group who have already volunteered to help. I'm happy to assist if I can do anything useful.
The question I have is: where will the work lie on a spectrum between something quick and Fellows-led that helps people address "how can I find out what's happening, and engage" ... and a joint effort with staff to get a better online platform for the next year or so until the big one is built?
Permalink Reply by Dr Graham Wilson on February 9, 2012 at 18:11 So many things I could pick up on, but just to focus on one for the moment...
John asked some very relevant questions about the problems (aka otherwise unmet user needs) that the various platforms solve.
I realise that this may seem argumentative, but I feel it is important to set off in a different direction. I don't feel it is helpful to offer personal views about those platforms or the people who use them, especially when our own experience is very limited.
Sorry to pick up on this from you Don, but these are valuable examples:
>>2) What problem is Twitter solving? Some Fellows find twitter useful. I don't, but we need to keep an eye on it as we all know that Twitter can be a powerful viral medium for the naysayers.
What YOUR use of this is like is not relevant. Statistically, Twitter has taken over as a means of two- and multi-party inter-personal communication from email. Yes, it does offer the opportunity for negative messages to be spread widely, but it also offers the opportunity for positive ideas to be shared and developed rapidly.
>>4) What problem is Linkedin solving? If forms a useful platform for those Fellows who are business orientated and already use this platform. I find myself pulled into it repeatedly. But it is cut off from the mainstream of communication amongst Fellows.
Again, you haven't answered the question. LI is NOT populated by business-oriented people, it IS populated by predominantly work-oriented ones. There is no reason why someone who doesn't currently use the platform cannot start doing so. I am sure that LI would be able to quote statistics of new users each day who clearly demonstrate that this is the case. How is it cut-off from the mainstream of communication amongst Fellows? Perhaps we should see some statistics on this before making such a claim. Personally, I see more relevant activity here than on any of the other RSA-used platforms with the possible exception of Twitter, which seems to me to be the most active even if much of it is not relevant to me.
While I'm sure that the historical issues are worth understanding, I don't actually find the constant reference back to them helpful at all. They refer to a time when most of the contemporary tools for collaboration didn't exist, when many professionals had still not engaged with them, and when the mission of the RSA was in a very different 'embryonic' state. It also predates the appointment of some important new members of staff.
Incidentally, there are MANY collaborative platforms available, where collaboration is about building something rather than venting. Forums like this one and LI serve as a vent for a lot of people, but the simpler solutions, like Google Docs, and the more complex ones, like DeskAway, allow far more constructive work. Let's not limit our exploration of a solution to our narrow and subjective experience from a long time ago.
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Permalink Reply by John Oakley on February 9, 2012 at 18:56 To a large extent I agree with Graham. The implication I get from the discussions so far is that we need to do something and we need to do it now. However, so far the discussions are tending towards "what" rather than "why". I was asking somewhat simplistic questions around "what" to see if I could surface some "why"s. As a noob I don't have the advantage of history - although the more I find out about the backstories the more challenging - and even entertaining - the opportunities become.
I have found that by examining the tools used I can get an insight into any tacit requirements. If I can mangle Henry Ford, "if I asked the customers what they wanted they would all be riding a faster horse."
The networking tools selected so far by the rank and file indicate the following to me:
I have met several situations where providing better tools have improved credibility but in general the first rule of computer science applies: Computers let you screw up faster. It seems to me that if there is a "voice" issue then that is the first thing to be resolved. I'm not saying that better tools are not a good idea just that a screw driver is not the optimum solution to drive a nail.
If the problem is organization of material then there are better tools than are in use now.
If the problem is navigation of the material then ditto.
If the problem is discovery and interests/skills fit then there are much better tools available.
If the problem is that no matter how much lipstick you put on the pig JAS don't want to make pies then tools won't help.
And yes, there are many tool solutions out there... from the previous discussions I suggested some incremental but cheap/free solutions as a way of moving forward ... but until I see the real problem statement, policies and strategies to solve the problems within the strategies then any change may be both incremental and possibly in the wrong direction.
And yes, as an avid Google user the Google application suite meets most of my needs now but it is a paradigm switch from where we are now.
But I always keep in mind George Santayana's quote " "Those who cannot remember the past are condemned to repeat it"
Just to modify Santayana "Those who never knew the past may be condemned to repeat what happened". There is a "political" and organisational history which militates against Fellows doing stuff in some areas. However, times they are a'changing.
Permalink Reply by John Oakley on February 9, 2012 at 21:49 Ah, its all in the translation :-) But that is a good distinction. Well I'll await the a'changing times with interest then if that is the more "political" thing to do.
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